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Yes Minister – Greek and Latin issues

Bernard displays his advanced knowledge…
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25 Responses to “Yes Minister – Greek and Latin issues”

  1. Abcormal says:

    @cygil1 Or this could be a case of “Critical Research Failure” (see TVTropes).

  2. KariFani says:

    One of the funniest thing the Sun ever printed was the headline “Sir Bumphrey”. They really should have written an episode were Humphrey gets outed and is involved in a sex scandal. That would have been funny.

  3. butnu says:

    Wow, what an excellent error which im amazed I wasn’t already aware of! Cheers!

  4. acr08807 says:

    @cygil1 Crap, you’re right. He said “bewaring of themselves.” That is a gerund. I guess I don’t deserve my first.

  5. acr08807 says:

    @cygil1 “Bearing” is the present participle of “to bear,” and Bernard used the word as a participle, not as a gerund. He deserved his first.

  6. helenwhohelenwho says:

    “Everything I know I learned from Yes Minister.”

  7. cygil1 says:

    In “beware of Greeks bearing gifts”, Bernard claims “bearing” is a participle. It’s actually a gerund. Doubtless his Latin and Greek were stronger than his English.

  8. admiraljello says:

    @magister343 The word Danai has always been used metonymically to refer to Greeks as a whole, just as the Argives (rather than just being Greeks from Argos) is also used to refer to Greeks as a whole. When we’re talking about poetry, the “normal Latin word” is prosaic–the literary vocabulary, esp. in epic, is entirely separate from the commonplace sort. Synecdoche is the norm, and certain usages have been preserved from the start.

  9. maitland72 says:

    The three people that disliked this went to the LSE…. ^_^

  10. antonistzekakis says:

    Haha! …had you not attended the LSE!

  11. phlarrdboi says:

    danaos is not only the greek for greek its also the latin for greek, its very interesting really.

    <3s burnurd

  12. truvianni says:

    I just felt that he would say something about Galtieri

  13. magister343 says:

    The speed and British accents of Latin quotes in this series makes them hardto understand. I had to go back man times to discern that it was “Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes,” which means “I fear Danaans and those bearing gifts.” Danaans are Greks of a particular lineage, not Greks in general. The normal Latin word for Greek is Graeci; the Greek, Hellenes.

    Amusingly, Google Translate’s auto-detect also assumes this is phrase is in Greek. It also mistranslates Danaos as “Greeks, even when.”

  14. krum118118 says:

    I dont know what was said but i completely agree….i think….

  15. martinXY says:

    Many of the humorous exchanges on Yes Minister (and indeed in Monty Python) seem to me as if the writer(s) were recalling long drawn out pointless arguments from their University days, when one could ramble on and on and still sound reasonable intelligent. I agree it’s a pity Greek and Latin are no longer respected, since they from the fundamentals of not just our language but our systems of government and justice.

  16. AliceTRoyal says:

    @mrbignose888 It is. It’s just that Humphrey is very much an Oxford man, and looks sneeringly upon any university that isn’t Oxford. I think.

  17. gkapitso says:

    beware the greeks bearing an olive oil surplus…. rotfl

  18. Saxifrage040210 says:

    I love when he gets Churchillian…

  19. jradetzky says:

    @mrbignose888 yes, but they don’t teach classics (Greek and Latin) at the LSE. Only at Oxford and Cambridge

  20. multimill says:

    Integrated Transport Policy? Calling John Prescott 20 years later – were the writers psyhic?!?! Prescott was and epic FAIL as an MP and the car is still KING!!

  21. AlchemicGnosis says:

    It’s all Greek to me.

  22. embrithil says:

    @BartBassist it’s part of the future “Homeric Cycle” of which we do have fragmants in Greek :)

  23. pspboy7 says:

    “We need it like an apeture in the cranial cavity!”

  24. bulbadox says:

    @mrbignose888 yeah, at that time LSE was considered ordinary…not many people from class families went there.

  25. mrbignose888 says:

    One thing i didn’t understand is why they where always joking about the LSE? I thought it was one of the best universities?

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